So langsam kommt Licht in die US-Wahl

Dieses Thema im Forum "Small Talk" wurde erstellt von sandretto, 5. November 2004.

  1. sandretto

    sandretto Gast

    Ich bin jetzt schon seit vielen Stunden auf zig amerikanischen Webseiten unterwegs, vor allem Foren. Die Meldungen über Unregelmässigkeiten und Betrug nehmen von Stunde zu Stunde zu. Hier gibt es zum Beispiel eine von zahlreichen Seiten, wo man "Unfälle" beim wählen melden kann, die Seite ist aber zeitweise überlastet (hmmm)....

    Ohio und Florida sind schon mit tausenden von Fällen gelistet, und innerhalb von kurzer Zeit schnellen die Zahlen hoch. Als ich nach ca. einer Stunde wieder vorbeigeschaut habe, hatte sich die Zahl der Fälle in Florida glatt verdoppelt.

    Hier gibt es eine sehr interessante Diskussion, vor allem das Eingangsposting, unbedingt lesen.

    Und bei den Demokraten ist sowieso der Teufel los, und zwar richtg, lest euch selber mal durch....

    Hier ein paar Infos zu Diebold, die e-Voting-Terminals herstellen, mit Sitz in Ohio!
  2. apoc7

    apoc7 New Member

    Jetzt dachte ich, George W. sei wenigstens einmal demokratisch zum Präsidenten gewählt worden...
  3. sandretto

    sandretto Gast

  4. ks23

    ks23 Ohne Lobby

    Oh Gott. Ich möchte das alles gar nicht wissen, sonst bekomme ich noch das :wuerg:

  5. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa New Member

    merci sandretto. :)
  6. McXoX

    McXoX Gast

    Was hier in D abgeht, will aber anscheinend niemand wissen:

    Ab April sind dann auch alle privaten Bankkonten von den entsprechenden "staatlichen Organen" einsehbar.

    Dann haben wir demnächst den totalen Überwachungsstaat.

    Eigentlich haben wir ihn wohl jetzt schon. Aber wer will das schon wissen ?

  7. donald105

    donald105 New Member

  8. maiden

    maiden Lever duat us slav

    jaja. Die Musterdemokratie dieser Welt. Sie braucht internationale Wahlbeobachter und Firmen, die sich um die Wähler kümmern.
    Und der Erfindungsreichtum, wie man Leute vom Wählen abhält, kann mit dem mittelamerikanischer Bananenrapubliken mithalten.
  9. sandretto

    sandretto Gast

  10. Laques2000

    Laques2000 New Member

    Wenn ich an TollCollect denke werde ich traurig. Das würde ja heißen, dass die Deutschen auch nie zum Mond fliegen werden... :angry:
  11. Jana_aus_Berlin

    Jana_aus_Berlin New Member

  12. Jana_aus_Berlin

    Jana_aus_Berlin New Member

    Friday, November 5th, 2004
    17 Reasons Not to Slit Your Michael Moore

    Dear Friends,

    Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in the words of Monty Python, “always look on the bright side of life!” There IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

    Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

    1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

    2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

    3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

    4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and don’t approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

    5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

    6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And no more show tunes!

    7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

    8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

    9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't have to buy now.

    10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

    11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

    12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

    13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided.

    14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ass.

    15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

    16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!

    17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

    Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country -- it doesn't even need a president!'"

    But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.


    Michael Moore
  13. maiden

    maiden Lever duat us slav

    ja, das alles stinkt schon gewaltig.
  14. sandretto

    sandretto Gast

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